posted 05-07-2003 02:16            

Radio Assist Ministry 2454
Edgewater Broadcasting Inc. 1766
Educational Media Foundation 875
Calvary Chapel of Twin Falls, Inc. 271
Covenant Network 257
Educational Communications of Colorado Springs 165
Way FM Media Group 158
Robert J. Connelly Jr. 124
Turquoise Broadcasting Company LLC 118
CSN International 114
Radio Training Network 114
Indiana Community Radio Corp. 111
Big Bend Broadcasting 104
Public Broadcasting of Eastern Indiana 104
Edward A. Schober 103
TOTAL FROM THE 100+ APPLICANTS 6838
All other applications 6507
TOTAL APPLICATIONS FILED 13345

Over 50% of the applicants were filed by 15 parties.

There are also some regional applicants that did not make our 100+ list but have been kind of strange.

For example, KINGSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE filed *17* applications in Brooklyn **ON THE SAME FREQUENCY** (95.1) then they filed multiple apps on other frequencies.

posted 05-07-2003 15:41            

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Originally posted by REC:
There are also some regional applicants that did not make our 100+ list but have been kind of strange.

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Yep, we have some regional strange ones too. He's Alive Incorporated 8 applications. One of those applications is 12 miles from the Primary Station. The predicted signal level at the translator is 66.8dBu. You can't tell me that the residents in the area of the translator can't already receive the primary station. This is an obvious attempt to keep an LPFM out.

posted 05-07-2003 23:20            

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Originally posted by bryan27:
I would like to be a fly on the wall at some of these Christian Broadcasters confrences. Surely they all sit around, hack up the FM Band, and decide who applies for what and where as they draw up their 'battle plans' in their effort to control and dominate broadcasting.

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There is a Christian Broadcaster’s convention happening sometime fairly soon in Dallas. That's not very far from me. I even received an invitation to attend it one day at no charge. I have made no plans to go, In fact, I was avoiding it like the plague.

Now you have me wondering what goes on there. Maybe I should go. I doubt they’d let me into any of their secret meetings, but it might be interesting to get a feel for the water.

Then again, I think I already know…

posted 05-07-2003 23:28            

Yours,

Don

posted 05-08-2003 15:47            

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Originally posted by Modern Populist:
It IS important to remember that not all Christian broadcasters are involved in The Great Translator Invasion. Not even all EVANGELICAL Christian broadcasters!! So don't be surprised if you find some people at the Dallas Meeting who agree with you ...

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Well, that true Don. In fact, I've become friendly with several other LPFM operators in my area (Texas) who are running Christian based LPFM stations. They are very sincere about what they are doing, and decent people to boot. Not a problem in my opinion.

What worries me are the guys who are trying to give Clear Channel a run for their money by establishing these huge nationwide networks of repeaters that are designed to empty the purses of little old ladies.

It may be worth going to their convention.

posted 05-08-2003 20:26         

Based on the formats of the the CCTF and EMF stations, I really think they are trying to empty the pockets of a much younger (and influential) market.

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Originally posted by chuxgarage:

Well, that true Don. In fact, I've become friendly with several other LPFM operators in my area (Texas) who are running Christian based LPFM stations. They are very sincere about what they are doing, and decent people to boot. Not a problem in my opinion.

What worries me are the guys who are trying to give Clear Channel a run for their money by establishing these huge nationwide networks of repeaters that are designed to empty the purses of little old ladies.

It may be worth going to their convention.

Chuck

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posted 05-08-2003 20:34            

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Originally posted by chuxgarage:

Now you have me wondering what goes on there. Maybe I should go. I doubt they’d let me into any of their secret meetings, but it might be interesting to get a feel for the water.

Then again, I think I already know…

Chuck

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Chuck;

I told you how I "coordinated" the translator apps, didn't I? Do you need any further proof? All it takes is being "on the inside" with the "big dogs"... (I hate to admit this, though.)

posted 05-09-2003 12:59            

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Originally posted by hawkfm:
Chuck;

I told you how I "coordinated" the translator apps, didn't I? Do you need any further proof? All it takes is being "on the inside" with the "big dogs"... (I hate to admit this, though.)

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It seems that sometimes the only way to play the game is by somebody else's rules, even if you don't particualrly like those rules. Therefore, it is very helpful when you understand those rules.

You do. Thanks Terry.

posted 05-09-2003 02:40         

Radio Assist and Edgewater are two different fronts for the same organization. An organization called "World Wide Radio".

One of the stations that I spoke with today gave World Wide retrans consent on a single translator. They ended up filing multiple applications in multiple cities.

Even though their mailing address in Twin Falls, it appears that there is a Southern California connection to this organization that we are currently following. We are still waiting to hear back from other stations.

Despite the Twin Falls address, we have not been able to make a connection between this group to Calvary Chapel of Twin Falls.

posted 05-09-2003 05:18         

Educational Media Foundation 875 (This is KLove, Air1, etc.)

Calvary Chapel of Twin Falls, Inc. 271 (The granddaddy of the satellator, KEFX, KAWZ)

Covenant Network 257 (WOLG)

Educational Communications of Colorado Springs 165 (key station KTLF)

Way FM Media Group 158 (Mostly east coast stations)

CSN International 114 (another front for Calvary Chapel)

Radio Training Network 114 (this group has been filing cover NCE fm applications)

Indiana Community Radio Corp. 111 (Looks like they have WRFM & WJCF, neither of them have covered licenses)

Notice the "big 2" are missing from this list?

posted 05-20-2003 03:23            

From the May 16, 2003 print edition
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The Business Review (Albany)

Broadcasters line up to buy signal 'translators' from FCC
Barbara Pinckney     The [Albany, NY] Business Review

The Capital Region soon could have 29 new FM radio stations, but chances are you won't even know they're here.

Earlier this year, the Federal Communications Commission opened a window for applications for new FM translators. Broadcasters use translators to carry their full-power stations into areas they would not normally reach.

The translators, which have signals of up to 250 watts, operate on a separate frequency.

A total of nine broadcasters submitted applications for 29 translators to be located throughout the Capital Region. These were among about 30,000 applications filed nationwide.

"For years, the FCC opened up a window for translators about every 18 months," said Brian Larson, president of Northeast Gospel Broadcasting in Hoosick Falls. "They would get 1,500, maybe 2,000 applications. But there has not been a window open in seven years, so they caused a traffic jam."

The long gap was due to the creation of the low-power FM service, an attempt by former FCC commissioner William Kennard to open up the airwaves to more individual voices. Many of the frequencies that would have been used for translators instead were the subject of low-power FM applications.

Larson said that when translator applications were taken more often, companies would apply for a few a year and spread out the effort and costs. Now, rather than take the chance that the window will close for another seven years, he and many other broadcasters filed as many applications as they could.

For Larson, that was 24 applications to extend the reach of WNGN, 91.9 FM in Argyle, Washington County. Of those, nine are for sites in the Capital Region--two in Troy and one each in Albany, Amsterdam, Canajoharie, Buskirk, Coxsackie, Catskill and Gloversville.

"We would have liked to have filed more, but we had to consider what we could realistically handle," he said.

Larson said the 24 applications cost Northeast Gospel $25,000 to prepare and file. Building all 24 translators would be another $250,000.

Another religious station, all-music Christian WKVU out of Utica, would like translators in Albany, Amsterdam, Colonie, Glenville, Saratoga Springs, Gloversville and Johnstown. The station is part of the K-Love network owned by the Rocklin, Calif.-based Educational Media Foundation. Officials there could not be reached for comment, although it appears that the translators would mark the company's entry into the Albany market.

Other applicants include WAMC Northeast Public Radio, an Albany-based network of 10 stations reaching seven Northeastern states. WAMC already has a translator in Troy, and is hoping to add Scotia and Hudson.

posted 05-21-2003 09:59            

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Originally posted by RECNetworks:
Despite the translator invasion, looks like LPFM is still alive and well in many parts of the country.

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posted 05-21-2003 14:47            

To REC NETWORKS for a wonderful, and generally heartening, LPFM Availability Map!!

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Second:

I am surprised to see so much white space (filled-up spectrum) in the lightly populated Rocky Mountain and/or desert States -- and so many black dots (channels available for LPFM) in the much more densely populated Great Lakes States and the Upper Mississippi Valley.

Is the Central West overflowing with evangelical satellators, or what?

Yours,

posted 05-21-2003 15:04         

The program used for this map was similar to the weekly report we run for the Top 1000 LPFM communities.

If you were to look at a version of this map that shows all census designated places, you will see that the east coast looks like an ant farm while the west coast is still spotty because of how spread out communities are in the west.

Look at the area of Southern California just to the southwest of Nevada. You will see there's nothing there. This does not mean that there is a dial completely full of satellators, but there are no census designated communities there.

In the west, if you look carefully, you can see the "holes". The ones in Denver and Salt Lake City are clearly seen.

Now the big streak of nothing in the north east (CT, NJ, NYC, MA, RI) is for real. These are areas that can not get LPFM.

posted 05-21-2003 15:48            

Like REC said this is just census points and out west the communities are really spread out.

I noticed another limitation of the map. Although there are many, many dots on the map there is no way of telling if a group of dots only have one available channel. Also in this area most census locations are tiny unincorporated locations where support to keep a radio station going may not be feasable.

posted 05-21-2003 17:04            

IF it's not too much trouble do a two-color map, allowing people to distinguish between areas where the spectrum is full and areas where there are simply no census-designated communities, that would be great!!

A physically LARGER map, as suggested by BRYAN, would also be helpful to a lot of people. If THE LPFM GRAPEVINE can't accommodate a larger map, maybe you could post it on the REC NETWORKS Web Site -- and/or sell hard copies for a reasonable price!!

THANK YOU AGAIN for what you've done already.

Sincerely,

posted 05-22-2003 06:56            

Name: Chris Kidd
E-Mail: ckdj14@hotmail.com
Date: 5/14/03 11:58 p.m.

"66.214.105.231" writes:

Just found this webb site and notice my name in print. My company did file for a few FM Translators around the Sacramento area and the FCC finally released the data.

At first I thought I had a couple of singleton applications, then I looked further and found the Rosemount, Arden-Arcade and Florin filings. It appears it is a chess game and I have co-channel and first adjacent filing in each direction.

I attended the convention and joined the National TV & FM Translator Association recently. The convention in Denver May 3rd thru the 4th had a paid attendence of 150 plus a few FCC officials from Denver and Washington, D. C.
Here is what I learned from the FCC about the FM translator Filing window:
13,300 applications were filed amoung 850 applicants. 15 applicants filed half of all the applications. The FCC is asking the top filers to review what they really want and to dismiss the rest before they release a singelton list. This applies only to applicants who filed more than 100 applications(which excludes me).

The top filers are Radio Assit Ministries and Edgewater Broadcasting who are the same people and together filed 4,000 applications. They do plan to voluntary dismiss some applications.

The second group is K-LOVE who filed around 1,200 applications. They are in every corner of every town with many duplicate applications. In the interest of moving the process along, K-LOVE should consider dismissing their duplicate filings.

The Calvery Church is next and they also filed multiple applications for the same service in the same area.

Many of the applicants (including myself) secured written permission to re-broadcast the listed station. However it is only in the long-form application that you must cerify that you have written permission.

A final note on California State University-Sacramento. It appears that they were getting ready for a war with KQED. CSU filed for many areas of Sacramento where they already have a great signal. KQED FILED FOR NONE.

posted 05-23-2003 15:21            

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Originally posted by RECNetworks:
And now, the r-e-s-t of the story....

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Maybe these are more stupid question(s):

1)What is the grey area in the map? (between dots of any color)

2)Why does it appear in the Black and White version that there is more space in Northern Virginia, Washington DC and southern Maryland than in the colored dot version?

Do you have a program that can dotify a state or just a region?

Thanks for all the awesome analysis !!

Sincerely, Christopher Maxwell
Station Manager: http://www.RadioFreeRichmond.Org
Vice President: http://www.VCPP.Org
(under construction)

PS: Oh, the crazy disgruntled ex-board member has finished threatening to attempt blackmail to "get his stuff" by filing a Petition To Deny. He decided not to. That still leaves an Informal Objection though. If he really thinks we stole from him why doesn't he sue us in civil court? So the cat is out of the bag on our being "Accepted for Filing". Now I keep checking the "Broadcast Applications" in the Daily Digest and amazingly, apparently NONE of the LPFMS in my group attracted Petition To Denys ! None? Maybe I'm checking the wrong place.

posted 05-23-2003 23:41         

a) Each dot represents a community in the US Census 2000 database. Each community listing cooresponds to a specific geographic location. Keep in mind, just because the specific point is red does not mean the whole town is out, you may be able to find something nearby. The gray areas on the map are where there is no census designated communities. If you really want to put a station out in the middle of nowhere, then check the LPFM search or FMMAP.

2)Why does it appear in the Black and White version that there is more space in Northern Virginia, Washington DC and southern Maryland than in the colored dot version?

I think it's because the GIS program I use writes the green dots first, then the red ones then the yellow ones.

3) Do you have a program that can dotify a state or just a region?

I assume you are interested in this area:

Now I keep checking the "Broadcast Applications" in the Daily Digest and amazingly, apparently NONE of the LPFMS in my group attracted Petition To Denys ! None?

According to CDBS, there are no legal actions on your application. See: http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/leg_det.pl?Application_id=617902&File_number=BNPL-20000901AES

posted 05-26-2003 12:18            

Merry Christmas.

Yours,